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About this talk. In this 92-minute oral history, Khensur Rinpoche recounts his monastic training at Sera through unscripted conversation. He opens with the striking image of young monks studying by candlelight in caves and eating cooked nettles — deliberately echoing Milarepa — before describing the annual inter-monastery debating gatherings at Jangchup Chöling, where students from Sera, Drepung, and Ganden carried food and bedding on their backs for a day and a half’s walk to compete in debating Dharmakīrti’s classic work on valid cognition. Rinpoche details the punishing schedule: rising at 4:30am, all-night debating sessions on alternating nights, sitting on cold sand without cushions. A lighter passage recalls a class pilgrimage to view an ancient Nāgārjuna sūtra at Drepung, followed by racing and wrestling. He also notes the doctrinal commitments he received from Trijang Rinpoche in 1952.
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File: 15 RS 1988 01 02.mp3
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Teacher: Khensur Rinpoche
Collection: Rinpoche's Story (Khensur Rinpoche)
Date: 1988-01-02
Recorded at: Buddha House Adelaide
Duration: 91.9 minutes
Words: ~4,982
He all night memorizing. Stay awake all night Yeah. In the cave? No. No.
He stay fifteen day in the cave. Yeah. Then he come back there. Yeah. Then his duo comes in.
Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Duo comes in All night. Memorizing.
How? Yes. Memorizing. Remember. Yeah.
All night. Night. And what did they do in the caves? The in the caves, they were memorizing too. Yeah.
Yeah. No. In the cave in cave he cave in he, they are memorizing first, we don’t understand those word. We’re memorizing. Oh, they’re looking.
They’re looking. They’re looking. They’re studying. They’re studying in care. Yeah.
Then we come back in Sera. Mhmm. Then we don’t look textbook. Yeah. You know, we I see.
Is there light in the cave? Light. Light. Light. To read?
No. You’re always a tabbunah. I mean, in karakki. Even in the monastery. He he he bring the candle.
Candle. Candles. Did they eat nettles? Did they eat, you know, Milarepa eat nettles? They did?
Yeah. So he was being like Milarepa. What what Milarepa you see? You know, green stinging nettle. Nettle.
Nettle. Nettle. It’s fresh, very taste. Good taste. Yeah.
Biting. Stinging plant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Understand. What their name? Nettle. Nettle. Nettle.
He he said, nettle is is fresh, a very good taste. It is it it was fresh and very Cooking? Test. Cooking. Cooking.
Yeah. So it is. Yeah. Boil. Cook it.
Yeah. Cook it. Bit like spinach batter. Spinach. Yeah.
It’s the same? Spinach, like, before you give in the your home. This is spinach? Yeah. That’s right.
In in come Yeah. There were many eat I wonder if they like our nettles or not. I’ve tasted them. We used to pick them into bed and cook them up in soup. Our nettle stings if you touch the leaf on you.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s very Same? Same.
Yeah. Same. Same. Same. Same.
Same. Oh, okay. One day in Sala. One nature. Yeah.
You usually get money. My feet. Yeah. Oh, they do, don’t they? I know I was a school girl in English.
I got walked in. I didn’t know what nettles were. Oh, I’m so sore. I’m stung for days. In in monasteries, they’re beating Nieto.
Oh, really? Yeah. Naughty monks. For naughty monks. No naughty monks.
For not memorized. They want they don’t study hard enough. Is Rinpoche beaten with nettles? Kenil, I suggest you use that. No?
No. No. It’s just Mala. Do they beat his students with nettles? One day, his student and he teach dividing.
Then one comedy. They have one comedy. Yes. Comedy? A comedy, yes.
They had a play of funny. Yeah. Yes. One one day, he’s he had one student there, comedy. Oh.
Comedian. Comedian. Yeah. Then Rinpoche said every day, you start, you start, you learn. Then he doesn’t not long.
Then one day A clown. You you got He he beat one stick. Rinpoche beat. Rinpoche beat. Comedian.
Comedian. A clown. Yeah. It’s a clown. Yeah.
Then it’s not just color? How do you say? I don’t know. It’s not speaking. Then it was just more He didn’t so he didn’t respond.
He didn’t show anything. Yeah. Then he was just one more. No, he didn’t speak. Then he was just on a stick.
Here. It dug him in the ribs. Yeah. Here. Oh.
Yeah. Oh. Then he Oh, nice. Then finish the debating teacher. Then he just stay.
Yeah. He’s strong. Rumi is strong. This student? Yeah.
This comedian. Committed. He couldn’t move. Yeah. He couldn’t move.
Then Rinpoche is just very afraid. Very afraid? Afraid. Worried. Worried.
He don’t hit him too much. Yeah. Then his his teaching room is different. He still stay this teaching room. Then Rinpoche’s left Rinpoche’s room.
Then Oh, Rinpoche went to his own sleeping room. Yeah. His living room. Yeah. Different teach a room for teaching.
Yeah. So you had two rooms now, Rinpoche. He live in outside room. He he teach inside room. Then he Rinpoche left his room.
Then Rinpoche thought, tomorrow morning, he’s still here and no Rinpoche fell. Then he just want you just go look. He’s he’s stay here and, you he’s gone. So Rinpoche asked one of these Rinpoche asked. Yeah.
A student. Other student. Yeah. Yeah. Other student said he’s gone.
Oh. Oh. He was alright the next day? Gwunjin, if they ride horse Yeah. One day.
They wanted to ride a horse. Yeah. Yeah. The one day. And then A pillar.
Okay. This place, there are many different different monks come coming, then they’re dividing. So they rode a horse to get there, did they? This is what they were debating. Sanskrit is Yeah.
What is it in Sanskrit? Paramana. pramāna. P p r a m a n a v a r t t. Oh, b a r V a r t t.
Double yeah. I k a. Extensive commentary of wild cognition. Extensive commentary of Wild cognition. Wild Wild cognition.
Spell it with V a Can I just read out a bit? Okay. Will? No. Yeah.
Extensive commentaries on valid cognition, a famous work by Acharya Dharmakīrti. Dharmakīrti. Dharmakīrti. Uh-huh. Right.
Mhmm. So that’s what they were debating. They in they started in. Jangchup Chöling place. Jangchup Chöling.
Jangchup Chöling. Jangchup Chöling. Spring. Yeah. Write it again.
We’ll leave it for now. I’ll find out wondering what they’ve done. Okay. Good. If we we want go there, Yeah.
If we rode horse Yeah. One day. Yeah. If we want go walk. Yeah.
Day half, one and a half dice. Then there many come monk. Many monks? Many monks come. Come together there?
Come together there. Yes. Drepung and Ganden, Sera, they just study. They just study. They come to this place, and they all study together.
They all study together, together, debating in this one. Pramanavartika. For two months? Yeah. And Rinpoche wanted to go there?
Most people, they want to walk. Uh-huh. Then we bring tsampa. Oh, you have to carry on your back? Yeah.
Back. Zumba and and cloth. Have to bring enough food and clothes for two months? Food and cloth. And Bedding.
Bed. Sleep sleeping. Cushion. Cushion. Oh, cushion.
Yeah. Sleeping. Sleeping. Sleeping. Yeah.
Sleeping. In Australia, we call that swag. Swag. Sleep sleeping. Yes.
Sleeping cushion. Yeah. Not cushion. This is cushion. It’s jersey.
It’s Bedding. Bedding. Bedding. Bedding. Then eating cloth every spring back.
Carry on their backs? Carry on their back. Then he walk. Rinpoche had to walk? Yeah.
He didn’t go horse? He didn’t touch any fingers. He didn’t go horse. Oh. Oh, he just One walk?
Most people, they won’t go walk. Oh, yeah. Will walk or they won’t walk. They will. Yeah.
So Rinpoche walked? Yeah. Rinpoche walked. One and a half days. One and a half days.
Ah, yeah. Which direction from Lhasa? And I think here. There is a map there. We’ll just keep looking.
It didn’t. It didn’t? That’s right. It didn’t go. It didn’t go.
What are we looking for? Might be in this one. Lhasa. Lhasa. Latse, Shigatse, Ganzi.
It’s only one that’s walking. Yeah. It’s probably not even on this map. It’s probably just us. Yeah.
San Sanji. Sanji. No. It’s probably not even here. This is probably too too big this time.
No. Never. This one. That boat Yeah. On the river.
Yeah. Hang on. Yeah. Did Rinpoche ride in one of those boats? Yeah.
It might be too small. Yeah. Too small. This is a very big map. It’s not detailed.
Kukchuk? Yeah. What’s Kukchuk? Means. Kukchuk means It’s not gonna be They didn’t go many people.
They’re just only monk. Right. They’re dividing. Yeah. That’s the only thing that we can Is this must be summertime?
Spring. Spring. Yeah. Oh. Oh, yes.
I see. Yeah. Yeah. Spring time. Now Chinese now Chinese, they displaced.
They put in the sick sick people. You know? Hospital? Hos mental. What some some people Oh.
Sick. Different sick. What? I don’t know. How to say?
I don’t know. We say do with head? No. It’s all here and Leprosy. Leprosy, maybe.
Where it fingers forward. Fingers and this also gone. Oh, eyebrows gone. Eyes. Leprosy?
Leprosy. Chinese. Leprosy hospital. Yeah. To keep isolate.
Leprosy sick. You’re looking, Dushnet? Yeah. It was Yeah. There are many.
Leprosy. Leprosy. Oh, it’s always always been. Oh, yeah. I didn’t know that.
Now Chinese tip, Leopard lep leprosy lepers? Yeah. People in one part. One hospital? One hospital.
Leprosarium. Leprosarium. Yeah. Oh, I didn’t know that. That many study in.
Pramina. Prama vatika. That time we study. So many months? Yeah.
Many Drepung, Sera, Ganden. Yeah. Just competition. Oh, competition? Yeah.
Competition. See which monastery is best. Yeah. Good how do you say? Good person and good study people also coming in here.
Mhmm. They are. Then they study. All good students. Yeah.
All good students. Come together. You know, question and answer. Debate? Yeah.
Debating. Mhmm. One time, answer, they give answer Sera. They or Drepung and Ganden, they question. Ah.
Then one time they stay they stay. Drepung, then Sera and Ganden question. Ah. Then one time they stay Ganden. Sera and Drepung they question.
Debating. And they just question one monk? Only one monk or all the monks? The Dakje Gita. No.
This It’s one monk from First, one month. From Sera, they question. Yeah. They first start one month. Yeah.
After, there are many different kind coming. What is that? Questions. Yeah. Different.
Question. Question. But only one monk answering Yeah. From Two monk answer? Two monks.
Yeah. Two monks answer. Yeah. Are many different type. Some time one monk, some time two monk.
Many different subject. Three and four. Monks. Different Subject? Class.
Jai Gudjik. Class going on. Yeah. They have one two two two monks answer. Oh, two together?
Yeah. Two to each. And so many asking questions. Many different monks asking questions. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. True answer. So they’re not alone. Good.
Morning four and a half wake up. Mhmm. In evening, they stay one o’clock. Not much sleep? Yeah.
Three hours to sleep. Just sleep. I think. In in diet, there are many study. Full diet.
Dividing. They don’t rest in the afternoon? Just rest. They do. Yeah.
A little while. Yeah. After lunch. The lunch time, they want puja, private puja. Prayer puja?
Yeah. Yeah. It’s break. That’s the break? Yeah.
It’s it’s break. Do they cook for themselves? They have to cook? The color also say always. The color also say self.
Same as always. Cook self. Self? Yes. Cook.
Yes. Cook for yourself. Yeah. Cook for is twenty degrees. They give some many dozen.
Taza, you know, dozen? College. Oh, yes. Sorry. Yes.
And I see that there are two college. Yeah. Sera Je and Sera Je. Yeah. Sera Je monks.
Sera Je, they give, you know, tsampa and cha and butter and all monks. Sera Je monks. Sera Je monks, they all give some. So the colleges give them that for for this two months? Yeah.
Two months. They give the supplies to the monks? They One rooms, four and five monks. They give one monk five and five monks each. Oh.
They give. Oh. And and they have and. Yeah. Is separate.
Yeah. Cooked. Yeah. Four and five big months. Ceremon, are together.
Ah. Cooked. Altogether. Altogether. I see.
Yeah. Different. Yeah. Yeah. Very tired.
Yeah. Think. Yes. No sleep. Yeah.
No. They must fall asleep sometimes while they’re debating. Sometimes they Has to. Yeah. They’re debating, James.
James is hard. So that that’s a spring springtime? Yes. Springtime. Is that before Before Lausa.
In Tibetan day, Tibetan month, November, Tibetan month. Ah. Ah. They start. That’s Western month of November.
No. Western, I think, January. Oh. Yeah. I know lots of Oh.
January and February. No. So sorry. I thought it was this. So it’s what Tibetan month is it?
Tenth month or In the juvenile the juvenile month. The juvenile. Tibetan month, eleven. Then we come back, then we lost her. Yeah.
He went to eight times. Eight times to this? Yeah. Eight times. For eight years.
Eight years? Yeah. Oh. What level do they have to be at to go there? They have to be up to this one?
Yeah. This one. Not English. No. That’s okay.
It’s Cost of patripal meat. Don’t know. It’s it’s very different. Extensive commentary of wild cognition they have including many subjects. So it’s very lengthy.
Yeah. Spread. Yeah. Many subject including different subject. Eight eight years.
Yeah. Eight years. Eight years. Yeah. He been eight years.
When we come Shumsarba, Each year, we study Each year? Yeah. This Pramanavartika Yep. Study one here each two months. Two months in each year?
Yeah. Two months each year. Oh, I see. I see. Just that time at the at this Jangchup Chöling.
Yeah. Yeah. Jangchup Chöling. No other times? No other times.
Oh, right. I don’t know there are. They have only Pramanavartika. Pramanavartika. It’s just Pramanavartika study.
And then holiday. Those history are same in now in India. You they still study that? Yeah. So that’s the same.
Same. Do you have that two months that We have we we didn’t go other place. No. You stay. You stay.
Uh-huh. When we start to point I view. Think introduced it to Sarah in India. No. Not introduced.
They they want to study together. They won’t Ganden. Yeah. Before they did in Oh, I see. Nineteen fifty nine Yeah.
And nineteen nineteen eighty three between the They did them together? Together. Uh-huh. Then he’s about nineteen eighty three. Yeah.
Then he start together. First, we start Ganden monastery. Did you say that? Or Sera, Drepung, they want go Ganden monastery. Yeah.
They they stay Gandhi monastery. They start. Mhmm. After Sera, they all come back Sera. They study next year.
Oh, the following year? Yeah. Yeah. Then next year, I follow Devil. Oh.
It’s together. So it’s This year in Ah. So it’s rotating. Rotates. Rotating.
Yeah. Rotating. Yes. And do the new monks like, your first year, second year, third year monk, do you still go to this or only the ones that have been there for many years? Now they are old people.
Everyone does. Everyone’s go. But before No. No. It’s different.
If this year in we study Ganden. We there are only twenty people and thirteen people. Monastery. So just thirty and few twenty people. Why there are many pay and train and we want go travel in Ganze Massey, they they want to pay the money.
But Rinpoche didn’t go to this Jangchup Chöling when he was in his first three years, only after, or did he Oh, in Tibet? Yeah. In Tibet, you’re asking. After three years. After three years.
Yeah. First first, this one together. Study one here. Oh, the three? No.
Three. Uh-huh. Then this Shumsawa. Shumsawa means new class. Yes.
Arabic, the new class. Ah. Then means old class. He start after. When that finishes?
When this finish? Yeah. Finish, then he So it’s partway through the first three years. Might be after what? Two years or something.
After three years. After three years. Yeah. This this Paramita new class takes two years. You said medium small, medium, large took one year.
Yeah. And the fourth one, Shum Supper, after. Over two years, these three class. Ah. Small, medium, large.
Then Shumsaba is one year. Oh, yeah. Then after Shumningwa, then we want go. You and you read. Means old.
Means new. I’ll check all all of this. I’ll read back to Rinpoche. So if there’s anything not right, we can fix it when I’ve got it written properly. They go to They don’t go.
Okay. This side is out of sequence. I’m continuing interview with Khensur Rinpoche, but this is on Wednesday, the fourth of January nineteen eighty nine. So there was an interview on Wednesday, the on Tuesday the third, which I’ve recorded on another tape. So we were talking about the old empowerment and commitments yesterday anymore to talk about, or did we finish?
Oh, initiation. Mhmm. Think soon Last week, yesterday, when he get worse. Oh, yes. Yeah.
Four month, he didn’t. He put I think he To better four months. Yes. Yeah. Yes.
It’s a missed. Mistake. Yeah. Ah. Six months, fifteen.
Six months. Yeah. Tibetan, six months, fifteen. And the true. Due to total.
Fifteenth. Yeah. Fifteenth. Right? At sixth month, fifteenth.
Oh, good. When Shunsava. Shunsava? When he was Shunsava Uh-huh. Then the first Shuns first time, all together class.
Playgrounds. They went to pilgrimage? Yeah. They went to pilgrimage. The whole class?
Holy place. Ganden. It’s Nāgārjuna. And Nāgārjuna. Mhmm.
He bring sūtra. One sūtra. He brought sūtra. He bring sūtra from Naga. From the Naga?
From the Nāgārjuna, n a g a r j u n a, founder of the Mādhyamika, m a d h y a m i k a, school of Buddhist philosophy and of the lineage of the profound teachings of emptiness. Anyway yeah. And the Nagas are a kind of being regarded as belonging to the animal class, believed to abide in subterranean realms, having control over rain, ponds, rivers, and soil productivity. Some are Dharma protectors, but they can bring retribution. Yeah.
They’re disturbed bad fortune. Often in Buddhist art and in written accounts, they are portrayed as being half human and half snake. Uh-huh. Good. Yeah.
It’s Nāgārjuna. Yeah. So He brought from India. Yeah. He bring from India one sūtra Yeah.
From another another country. Right. Yeah. Yeah. From another country.
Yeah. Between Yeah. One sūtra. Then it is in the Devil Monastery, they have one naga sūtra. He bring naga sūtra.
Oh, the original doc the original writing? One text. Text. Tibetan or Sanskrit? Pugetto.
In Tibetan. Then usually this holy place close. In Tibetan fourth month and fifteenth day they open this place. The fourth month, fifteenth day. Yeah.
Not the sixth month. No. No. Fourth month. Month Is good.
He bring he which is the the god voice. Yeah. Two hundred fifty three, the voice. Yeah. So on the fourth month Fourth month.
Fifteenth day. At Drepung. He yeah. All together class. Whole class.
This classmate. See Nāgārjuna Sūtra. Now installed in Thailand. Right.
Bring sūtra. Uh-huh. The bring sūtra. Yes. Good.
What is it? What’s what? What is it? D a n d d r a n d r r a Sorry? D a d.
Yeah. We. Just do. Yeah. Do means sūtra.
Oh. If you know pen Pen Pentas. Oh, thank you. Is this his is Rinpoche in his last one? I don’t take his last one.
No. No. No. You Just got a one. Yeah.
Thank you. You on what? Yeah. Oh, yes. Thank you.
So how many were in that class? How many monks went to Drebels to see that sūtra? Twenty? His classmate. Yeah.
His class Probably seventy. Seventy? Yeah. And how did they get there? Walking?
It’s every people and they’re old people wearing new clothes. They’re wearing new clothes. So they had new robes Yeah. They especially? No.
Same, but new. Also new It’s his classmate, and comes in classmate. Mhmm. Mhmm. Then Drepung duo comes in.
They invite those people. They wait. Oh, they invite? Invite. Yeah.
They wait. They wait. Yeah. Then, Sera comes in, people coming. Then they give tea and Drepung comes in, they give tea and everything.
Food? Food, yeah. Oh, nice. And when it is same, Drepung people Drepung duo comes in people come in Sera. Yes.
In Sera people Sera duo comes in, they take tea and fruit. Right. So they reciprocate. Yeah. They do both ways.
Yeah. And then they put jets, I just turn it along up, and I’m about to tell them to chuck it. And then there it is. Then Mhmm. Then he then returned.
He will then he will come back. Mhmm. And then this beat they go into Sarah between all his class. They want just rest, then they make tea in the ground. So they just walk there Yeah.
In just one day. They didn’t stay? It’s one hour. One hour for One hour. So you go in the morning and then Yeah.
Come back? Yeah. Yeah. One hour. Yeah.
Then he first go to Drepung, then they all play good, and they all pray and this Sūtra. At Drepung? Yeah. All Drepung. Then after I come back, and I did not arrive at Sera between the all day is there in the they play.
At Drepel? No. They won’t settle between. Oh, right. In between?
Yeah. In between. The next few years, they play. Oh, so had an outing. Yeah.
Then after an afternoon, five five, six o’clock, then they all come back. They play games? Yeah. Play again. Yeah.
What? Like, the draft? No. They watch wrestling? Wrestling.
Yeah. Monks? Wrestling? Monk. Oh, where did they learn wrestling?
Wrestling. I don’t know. Wrestling. It might be the right thing. What do they play?
I might have it done. Then two people. What? I don’t know. I think it is wrestling.
She loves fighting. Doocy. Yeah. Something like that. Doocy.
Doocy. R a. W w r, Riesl. You’re looking at Riesl? Yeah.
It starts with a w, silent w, w r. So did play race wrestler? Yeah. They they did. Yeah.
Good. Wrestler and then running. Running? Yeah. They were Racing?
Racing, yeah. Racing. Did Rinpoche wrestle or run? Racing? Racing?
Not wrestling? Wrestling? Yeah. Yeah. And running?
In the When you say racing, you mean running? Yeah. Running. Yeah. So both.
Yeah. Both. One year. Some Uh-uh. Competition.
Yes. How many race? Yes. How seventy. How many?
Seventy? Seven zero. Altogether, racing. Three and four people. Yeah.
Yeah. And the others watching. Yeah. Who the first gift? Sweet.
Did Rinpoche come first? Is he a good runner? No. Whistle. That and then Sarah.
They when they when they Kunsaba. When they were first Kunsaba, they turned first one one month. If the the time one month dividing Mhmm. Then Shun Sabha, fifteen day. Middle way new The the day, the the Not break.
Yeah. Chewelry. Chewelry. Yeah. It’s it’s not break time.
It’s on the debating. Right. Then on there are many class. Other classes, after eleven, twelve, they’re going house Mhmm. And sleep.
Mhmm. Then today, all night. Oh. Then tomorrow, middle new new midway, all night. Then all night.
Then all night. So the three? Yeah. Two. Alternate?
Yeah. All tonight. Oh. When they first Shum Saba and first midway. When they first start that?
Yeah. Mhmm. No sleep? Not every day. Oh.
One day, Shumsabha. One day, midway. Yeah. True. Two.
Just the two? Yeah. Just two. Alternate. Yeah.
Yeah. Shorty one understand. One day, all night, middle way a new middle way. Debating all night? Yeah.
Debating all night. New middle middle way Yeah. Class. Yeah. One day, debating all night.
Yeah. This June. One They cannot. In springtime, very cold. No cushion.
Nothing? Yeah. Nothing cushion. Just sitting. Just sitting.
Yeah. Sitting on the ground, no dirt. Sitting on the sand. Sand? Yeah.
In the morning, five o’clock. Till the morning? Till five? Yeah. In is in now in India.
The same? Same. Same. So you’ve done that too? No.
I didn’t. That this when this when they start also, the shoes are I think, Rumi Shi, I would that time, it start. That time, I over shoes are Oh, I see. And that goes on for how many nights? Fifteen days.
Fifteen nights? So Yeah. One month the bedding time. One month. Then fifteen day, middle way new middle way class.
Fifteen day, Shunsaka class. But they must sleep some nights. Yeah. Which nights do they sleep? They must get some sleep sometime.
When do they sleep? It’s a tune. One day, midway. One day, Mhmm. All night?
All night, but not same class. Oh. Oh. I’m mid I’m middle class. Mhmm.
You’re in Shumsaba class. Oh, I see. Then today, our class all night. Uh-huh. Then tomorrow, your class I see.
So you have one night sleep. One night sleep. Then one night out all night. Oh gosh. I think it was oh, no.
I’m getting confused with the other relative. I’ll just have to look. I’ll just look. I think it come nineteen fifty. I think about then.
Yeah. I can check it on the tape when I play it back. So we’ll say about nineteen fifty. Yeah. I think I think that’s about right too.
Yeah. Because he had three years, then two years, very hungry, and then lots of melancholy. Yeah. I think that’s that’s right. Nineteen fifty or nineteen fifty one?
Nineteen fifty one, when nineteen fifty one Mhmm. He he he was come in middle way Mhmm. New middle way class. Mhmm. Then But then she get to jail.
Mhmm. Correct. Mhmm. That’s what she get. Yeah.
Anyway, let’s not worry because I’ll I can find out on on the tape later. I’ve got it somewhere. Nineteen fifty one and two. Yeah. Then he come midway class.
Then that time, he get sūtra commitment. Commitment? Yeah. Commitment. Sūtra.
Sūtra. He gets commitment sūtra from Trijang Rinpoche. From? Trijang Rinpoche. How do you spell it?
Trijang Rinpoche. T r i j a n g. Such a commitment. Yeah. Yeah.
Nineteen fifty two. Tibetan, four month. Mhmm. And then. Mhmm.
And then. Tibetan. Tibetan. Fourth month? Fourth month.
Yeah. Eighth. Eighth? Yeah. Nineteen fifty two?
Nineteen fifty two. Yeah. Oh, okay. When he he was on middle grade class new middle grade what? Madhyamaka.
Mhmm. One hundred and two volume? Yeah. It’s very big. Not Sūtra?
Yeah. In one volume, there are some sūtra, they have five hundred page. Some three some, four hundred page. So the commitment was to study all of them? Yeah.
Very many. Then he start Nineteen fifty two, fourth month, end day start. Then finish on nineteen fifty two. Six month. Six month, fourth day, fourth day.
It’s very fast. Yeah. I mean Does that mean he memorized them all or he couldn’t have memorized, just studied them all? No. It’s just really listen Yeah.
This lama there. Oh, he Oh, right. To the complete reading. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh. You only just listen. Oh. I don’t know what it’s. It’s from in Sarah.
They give they and she got. Oh, which It Now. No. No. Mhmm.
No photo here. You look. This side? Yeah. This side.
Up the top? Vajrayoginī. You see Vajrayoginī? Yeah. Yeah.
Vajrayoginī. Vajrayoginī, right side. Yeah. Is it right side? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Black and white and Vajrayoginī between. Oh, right. He no. His his first life.
Oh, this is a new new incarnation. How do say? New incarnation. New Rebirth. Yeah.
Yes. Rebirth. How do you read? R R e b I r t h. R e b I r I r t h.
T h. Yeah. Reborn or reincarnated. Five Mhmm. They tell him his one class name.
Class name? Yeah. What what sort of things did he study in this class? After Madhyamaka class. After Madhyamaka?
Yeah. I think they’re Oh, got the tummo. It’s not Vinaya. Maybe Vinaya. Vinaya.
We looked up before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then he was Vinaya nineteen sixty nineteen fifty six.
Nineteen fifty six. Yes. Yeah. Then he this Tungian tradition, they give in Sarasya monastery. Mhmm.
And they give commitment. Jay Chumapar and and his two chief dis Disciples. Disciples. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. They they give commitment. Right. In nineteen fifty six? Yeah.
In Sera Je Temple. Good. Okay. In one here, they’re big debating time. One name is Yarchen Chemo.
Yarne means summer. Summer? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Gungche means spring. And then Denko. Winter? Autumn. Or autumn.
Autumn. Yeah. Or fall. Americans call fall. Autumn.
Yeah. Autumn. Autumn. Autumn. How is it?
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Winter, summer, autumn. Winter, summer, autumn. Yeah.
Not the spring. Term old term, they give Zipsia. This is a photo eleven. Yeah. They give Zipsia.
Zipsia. Zipsia. Zipsia. Every morning. This is this is this is a teaching.
Yeah. Means same slave. And all the monks have to sit like this Yeah. Bow down to receive that. And then I will come back.
Come back outside and from the circle outside. Yeah. Around photo with the man in the center, and they’re all discussing, memorizing. Yeah. Every morning.
Autumn. Autumn? Season, maybe. Yeah. Before winter before.
Then summer. Summer? Yeah. Spring. Can you tell me It goes autumn, winter, spring, summer.
Have that in the for the four seasons. For how how long? Means. Mhmm. Cold.
Cold. Yeah. Yeah. Then we first first, Yeah. Means, I think, autumn.
Yeah. That was nice. Yeah. The harvest, the barley harvest time? Yeah.
Mhmm. Chiga I don’t know. The barley harvest time? Mhmm. Then Chiga Chiga Chiga.
Then summer. In fourth month, Tibetan. Yeah. Uh-huh. Six month.
Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. In eighth month. Throw.
Start. Uh-huh. Eleventh month. Good. Thirteen all morning on teaching.
Start. Start. Six o’clock. In the morning? In the morning, then after eleven.
Goes to eleven in the morning? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Five hours.
Yeah. Five hours. Then they’re debating. And After eleven, they debate? No.
No. Oh, during? During. Yeah. And then outside in that circle.
Yeah. Then after, debating. It’s it’s morning dividing. Then evening dividing. This evening debating, the rain start, it was two o’clock.
Afternoon. In the afternoon. Mhmm. They start. And then she’s a tsogchen.
After two o’clock or to five thirty. More debating? Yeah. Debating and the prayer. Tsogchen.
We should. Yeah. I’ll touch you one, but