Audio recorded at Buddha House Adelaide. Transcript auto-generated and AI-corrected; may contain errors.
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File: 23 RS 1988 03 29.mp3
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Teacher: Khensur Rinpoche
Collection: Rinpoche's Story (Khensur Rinpoche)
Date: 1988-03-29
Recorded at: Buddha House Adelaide
Duration: 50.5 minutes
Words: ~2,320
The the the robe Yeah. The bottom robe was very very long and very heavy, and there was and would sway back and forth as they walked. They used to like to ride horses and shoot shoot both in there. Really? Very very something like sometimes, like, very aggressive.
Aggressive. Aggressive. Very, very, yeah, very bold. Very bold. So they weren’t great scholars for at the monastery, but they did the Kriyā Tantra rituals very well.
The one Kriyā Tantra, one level of Tantra. They used to do the rituals very well. What did that involve? The rituals? So, like, for example, they they called the tantra rituals they would do.
They do the rituals very well. Oh, with a lot of would just do that, yeah. Well, would just perform them very well. It’s all very elaborate offerings and things like that. So they would do it on the ritual, the mudras and things like that.
But they didn’t — they weren’t very good scholars. Oh, I see. Yeah. So they didn’t study dialectics mostly.
They like to rage around and ride horses and And do the rituals. Makes sense. Very So but Rinpoche’s teacher at that time, was quite serious and he used to just he used to teach the boys. He wouldn’t let he didn’t have any students who were these what? I don’t know what you call them.
Dob dobs. These kind of rough dob dobs. These — so even though he wanted to, he thought it was a good thing not to be allowed to shoot guns and ride horses. And then because the older monks, they used to tell him it wasn’t a good thing to do.
So this was his uncle. He said he’s talking about his teacher. Khensur. Khensur. K h a m d r u b.
K. K. K. K. K.
His uncle. Oh, so he just lived with his uncle. His uncle wasn’t actually his teacher then. Oh, his uncle did not teach him — an inscription. So shall we continue tomorrow?
Yeah. You wanna stop now? This is recording session three at Buddha House and it’s the thirtieth today isn’t it? Thirtieth. I’m a day ahead of myself.
First of March. It’s Thursday we can just take those and then Yes. Yeah. And then get those. Because it’s in Uchen script.
Mhmm. So maybe Tenzin can write them out. Great. I mentioned to Tenzin yesterday that that was gonna happen sometimes. So that’ll be said to now Oh, yeah.
Oh. That’s Leslie’s right here. Yeah. That’s good. I made the map bigger.
Oh, yeah. For you. Good. Yeah. When did you?
I think this will have to be changed. So this is a translation of this. Yeah. So we have to eventually have to Yeah. So, as written out, he’s it not the whole the outline?
So this is remember this is merely an idea of his, that you can think about it yourself and change it and do whatever you like with it, but it’s an outline to the entire book. He’s written out from the initial homage all the way down to the final closing prayer that he has written down all the different parts of his life. And then he thought that at the end that maybe he could have a short teaching on the Dharma. Three small sections on teachings. So you can think what you you can you know, we can translate this and see what you think about it.
And then if you if you know, you you can change it in any way you like. Oh, good. It’s a. Twenty. So there’s twenty chapters or something.
Can you read this all in the ten sentence? Yeah. This is the homage, and then his birth, and then all the everything. Do you want to I can ask Rinpoche to read it out to me, if you want to translate it now, or you can just do it with Tenzin. He could he could tell you what it says.
I I can’t read this very well. No. Trouble this time. So pressing, I’d like to appreciate to do it, but we’ve got so long time. So we’ll split this aside.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We’ll do it. It’s good.
Yeah. So, you you think, you know, we’ve been going in a speaking very in a very diverse fashion. And and maybe it would be difficult for you to take out everything that’s been said and put it into these sections, you but you could think of whatever works best. That’s what you could do. That would help to help organize the material.
Yeah. Also tell Rinpoche that I was thinking — before I know what’s all in here — that it would be nice, because it’s for Westerners, if he could talk about some of his general experiences too in Lhasa and leaving Tibet and in India. Yeah. That’s in here. It’s all in there, isn’t it?
Yeah. Oh, great. He fine. When he leaving leaving when he first arrived in India. So we better get on to what if Tenzin did translate, I told you down at Yeah.
Lord Elliott a little bit about his leaving. Can go on either — the last feelings in Tibet sort of building up to His Holiness leaving — or all this stuff. Is there enough on Sera Je now? I think I think so. I think for now, we should leave it because I’ve got about ten ten or twelve tapes, and I’ll have to go through them all.
And more will come, you know, when we go through editing. Is my next section of editing, and this is the map line up on Linda. Mhmm. And this is a section on Rinda. It’s not so formally edited, but Bruce said he’d go through it and come down sometime.
And this is the transcript it came from, so it’s just beautiful. Okay. Good. Thank you. Next life.
And would you be kind? You very much. Pleasure know that I’ve had these made, and I’ll keep these copies with me for the book, but to return his own negatives off. Ah, Oh, good to you. Yeah.
Yeah. The other photograph? Yeah. Oh, I have an incomplete set which he’s seen, which someone else had to try to do, but it’s not complete. And this one I had done paid for from a photographer that should be publication quality.
Okay. He has seen some of them. Awesome. Actually, I was wondering, you know, the photo Rinpoche showed yesterday of his first teacher and some of the other teachers that he might want in the book. I just arranged yesterday for Tenzin to go in and sit a driving permit test tomorrow morning, you know, not a permit, a written test.
I said I’d pick him up about nine. If Rinpoche was agreeable, there’s a color photograph place in the city. And if he could spare his photos just for a few hours, I could get color photocopies made photocopies, and they’re not that will help me to know and to visualize for the book what he’s got. He keeps the originals because I wouldn’t like to take them. Okay.
Okay. Could you ask of anything of his teachers? Or Mhmm. The. Yeah.
So that’ll be okay. So tomorrow morning, you can park them. Yeah. But I’ll come quite early about quarter to nine. She’s a trooper.
Could get the sunny Shulkin. Whatever. Oh, yeah. Good. And then I’ll bring them back.
Yeah. Oh. Let’s see. If I start to build up all the photos, then it helps to sort of know what we’ve got to get. I’ll put if you give me those Yeah.
Do you know someone has a picture of Dagpo — a photograph of Dagpo. Someone lives near Chinmissy up in Queensland. He asked him to send a picture, but he hasn’t sent it so far. But may so maybe We know that it’s we can get it. Yeah.
Yeah. So you could just keep that in mind if there is a picture of Dagpo. This is the old Dagpo monastery. Yeah. In Tibet.
So that’s Oh. So, yes, and more text that he was giving teaching. Oh, alright. Okay. So, yeah, so we we we I think we we got that right.
One of us, Rinpoche’s teachers was I we wrote that down. And then his teachers at Monastery. We have four main teachers at Sera Monastery. Can just write this down separately. Yeah.
So the four main teachers at Sera Monastery were at Sera Je. Khensur. Khensur Chendzö. Chendzö. Chen maybe c h e n.
D z ö. Nawang. Nawang. And then there is Geshe Lopsang Tuptup. Lopsang Thub tup, t h u b t u p.
T T h u b? Yeah. T. T o p. T o p.
Wow. And then there’s Gyumey Khensur Rinpoche. Gyumey, g y u m e y. Khensur Rinpoche. Ergin.
Ergin. Sertring, s e r t r i n g. So they taught him the three collected topics and the five main texts — what do you say? Yeah.
Which is the five main texts and the along with the commentaries. The ones with nature. Mhmm. The reviewing the hidden teachings and texts on. Again?
This is at. Is at. Oh, it wasn’t in. This is next one is is Darmasala. That’s alright.
And then the next one is at Hunser. Gyumey the Hunsur is where where Gyumey Tantric College is. Oh. Yeah. So it’s Gimi Tantric College.
Anyway, it’s called Yamaj, M A J. And it’s called — so I think it means something like completely revealing the hidden teachings, completely illuminating the hidden teachings. These are grammar texts called the thirty? No.
You will have to go through this. This is Sumjupa. Sumjupa, s u m j u p a. Dajuk, d a j u g. Dajuk.
It’s a grammar text. K h e n Künkhyen. Künkhyen. Künkhyen.
And this was given as teaching at Mussoorie. Mussoorie. That’s that’s good enough. So at Mussoorie, there was — he received — there was sixty. For six months, he attended teachings that were given to sixty abbots and ex-abbots and scholars of all the different traditions. Ex abbots and scholars of the various of all the traditions.
And they received teachings on the the And not poetry? Poetry, grammar. So they’ve been receive the and they they review the five major treatises. Then after this teaching at Mussoorie, then he went back to Buxar. Mhmm.
There he taught — they had a school in which they had over one thousand monks, teaching them Buddhism and the various sciences. So Rinpoche was one of the teachers for that. Taught Buddhism and the sciences. Yeah. Sciences.
That is it’s a general term they use. Yeah. There there’s these texts like the thirty, the text we had. We just The thirty grammar it it covers grammar or poetry. That’s what they that’s what they cover.
Grammar or poetry. I had to refresh your course first, and then they Yeah. Then they went up and taught. So then he took his geshe examination in nineteen sixty five. So at that time, all the various traditions.
Yeah. All the various All the various traditions, all the various sects were present. And at this time there were three monks, the three Geshes from Drepung, two from Sera, and two from Ganden who were sitting their examination. Sitting for the Geshe. This is at Buxar?
In Buxar. Yeah. Actually, we should go into — yeah. We should. We’ve got to get in before.
We haven’t left India yet. We haven’t left Tibet yet. You talked a bit about that with Tenjin? We talked about leaving Tibet, but we didn’t — we haven’t talked anything at all about Buxar. Buxar. Well, so we’ll talk about Buxar now.
Yeah. You’re right. So every day during the examination period, the monks who were sitting in their geshe examination would have to sit and in the morning they would sit for two hours debating Dharmakīrti’s Compendium of Valid Cognition, that’s one of the texts. So they would sit two hours debating that? So they would debate in the morning from six to eight they would debate Compendium of valid cognition.
And then from nine to eleven thirty, for about two and a half hours, they would debate perfection of wisdom and middle way philosophy. And then in the evening from seven to ten they would debate the ethical, the text on discipline and Abhidharma, psychology and cosmology. So this went on for seven days? It was you. This ten days.
It went up for ten days. Okay. Then the then the government awarded the ranking according to the number number according to the ranking. And can I — ranking out of the eight of them? So there were eight geshes, and they were the ranking?
Right. The government. In order of the eighth set. Yeah. Oh, so it’s not a standardized thing.
It’s just dependent on the age of the Just that year. Yeah. It. So they only rank the first four. There were two this, that year, there were two firsts.
One from Drepung and one from Ganden monastery. So there are two seconds. One from Sera and one from Drepung. And Rinpoche got second. He was the one from Sera.
Oh, there’s always one there’s one third, one fourth. Oh. Oh. Like, they’re ranking first, but there was two first, two seconds. So I’m sorry.
The last two. So it was just one of he he gave you the date previously when he left. So he left on the eighth day of the second Tibetan month. Rinpoche left two days later. There were thirty-four in his party.
They carried all the carried all their all their